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	<title>Comments on: Cash for Clunkers: Is It Worth It?</title>
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		<title>By: Clifford McCarthy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clifford McCarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think feel the car for clunkers legislation is a good idea. The same happens over here in the UK and i know of people who have benefited from it. but also know of people who work for small companies and are struggling as a result. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.motoring.co.uk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;new cars&lt;/a&gt;  are what people 
want but sometimes they cannot give away there old car never mind get a large sum of money to put towards the car they might have always wanted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think feel the car for clunkers legislation is a good idea. The same happens over here in the UK and i know of people who have benefited from it. but also know of people who work for small companies and are struggling as a result. <a href="http://www.motoring.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">new cars</a>  are what people<br />
want but sometimes they cannot give away there old car never mind get a large sum of money to put towards the car they might have always wanted.</p>
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		<title>By: MyLifeROI</title>
		<link>http://www.myliferoi.com/2009/06/cash-for-clunkers-is-it-worth-it/#comment-1456</link>
		<dc:creator>MyLifeROI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cars4Charities, 

But, it IS a benefit to car dealers, the consumer who gets a deal and is in need of car anyways, the car manufacturers who are getting positive cash flow and clearing out old inventory, and the auto suppliers who will start getting increased business when the car manufacturers need to start producing to get their inventory back where it should be.

Two sides to every story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cars4Charities, </p>
<p>But, it IS a benefit to car dealers, the consumer who gets a deal and is in need of car anyways, the car manufacturers who are getting positive cash flow and clearing out old inventory, and the auto suppliers who will start getting increased business when the car manufacturers need to start producing to get their inventory back where it should be.</p>
<p>Two sides to every story.</p>
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		<title>By: Cars4Charities</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cars4Charities</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cash for clunkers is not only not a benefit to the environment, is is also not a benefit to used car dealers, auto parts stores, auto mechanics, car donation charities and the poor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cash for clunkers is not only not a benefit to the environment, is is also not a benefit to used car dealers, auto parts stores, auto mechanics, car donation charities and the poor.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Steve Szalinski, 

One thing that I don&#039;t want people to lose sight of is...

&gt; They spent 1 Billion..what did they actually “make” on this deal?

No, WE had x billions spent out of coffers that we have no say over... those coffers are filled out of our pockets, but emptied at congress&#039; behest.  

Who benefits?

a) first off, the person who doesn&#039;t see that part of the money is coming from their own pocket -- or doesn&#039;t care, as long as MOST of the money is coming from someone else&#039;s pockets
  and, has a clunker-enough of a car
  and, can afford to buy a new car.

This is pulling money from someone else&#039;s paycheck as an incentive to &quot;you&quot; to go (deeper) into debt.

Who doesn&#039;t?

1) the poor shmoe who still doesn&#039;t have good enough credit to get a car... but look on the bright side, after you get through paying off your neighbors&#039; houses (from default), you can start paying off bailed-defaulted-car loans.

2) the conscientious green guy -- who already scrimped and saved to replace his carbon breather with an overly-expensive hybrid... he&#039;s still paying it off, and from the manufacturing perspective, the whole process is upside-down... 20-30 years for a pay-off?  Puh-LEAZE!  Anyway, he&#039;s doubly-off... even if he wanted to trade it in, it gets WAY to good of gas milage.

3) the guy whose car is not crappy enough.  That&#039;s ok, he probably also doesn&#039;t need to be taking on new debt.  But that won&#039;t stop him from paying for someone else&#039;s...

4) anybody who could really use a CHEAP, USED car... gov&#039;t regs require that the traded &quot;clunker&quot; be rendered inoperable -- destroyed, essentially.  Instead of giving cars to the Kidney Foundation or some charity to be checked out and tuned up and whatnot, and given to some other poor shmoe to is really down on their luck -- something to hopefully give them a leg up, the gov&#039;t wants them trashed.  

What&#039;s the ROI if the gov&#039;t is spending money that doesn&#039;t exist and expects YOU to pay the bill?

This is pure magic... wave a wand, make up money, spend it on made up stuff, and pretend that Americans can pay it off.  Heck, why not just write a fictional check from us to the government and declare the budget has been balanced, and the deficit is paid off?   

It&#039;s just crazy enough, it might work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steve Szalinski, </p>
<p>One thing that I don&#8217;t want people to lose sight of is&#8230;</p>
<p>&gt; They spent 1 Billion..what did they actually “make” on this deal?</p>
<p>No, WE had x billions spent out of coffers that we have no say over&#8230; those coffers are filled out of our pockets, but emptied at congress&#8217; behest.  </p>
<p>Who benefits?</p>
<p>a) first off, the person who doesn&#8217;t see that part of the money is coming from their own pocket &#8212; or doesn&#8217;t care, as long as MOST of the money is coming from someone else&#8217;s pockets<br />
  and, has a clunker-enough of a car<br />
  and, can afford to buy a new car.</p>
<p>This is pulling money from someone else&#8217;s paycheck as an incentive to &#8220;you&#8221; to go (deeper) into debt.</p>
<p>Who doesn&#8217;t?</p>
<p>1) the poor shmoe who still doesn&#8217;t have good enough credit to get a car&#8230; but look on the bright side, after you get through paying off your neighbors&#8217; houses (from default), you can start paying off bailed-defaulted-car loans.</p>
<p>2) the conscientious green guy &#8212; who already scrimped and saved to replace his carbon breather with an overly-expensive hybrid&#8230; he&#8217;s still paying it off, and from the manufacturing perspective, the whole process is upside-down&#8230; 20-30 years for a pay-off?  Puh-LEAZE!  Anyway, he&#8217;s doubly-off&#8230; even if he wanted to trade it in, it gets WAY to good of gas milage.</p>
<p>3) the guy whose car is not crappy enough.  That&#8217;s ok, he probably also doesn&#8217;t need to be taking on new debt.  But that won&#8217;t stop him from paying for someone else&#8217;s&#8230;</p>
<p>4) anybody who could really use a CHEAP, USED car&#8230; gov&#8217;t regs require that the traded &#8220;clunker&#8221; be rendered inoperable &#8212; destroyed, essentially.  Instead of giving cars to the Kidney Foundation or some charity to be checked out and tuned up and whatnot, and given to some other poor shmoe to is really down on their luck &#8212; something to hopefully give them a leg up, the gov&#8217;t wants them trashed.  </p>
<p>What&#8217;s the ROI if the gov&#8217;t is spending money that doesn&#8217;t exist and expects YOU to pay the bill?</p>
<p>This is pure magic&#8230; wave a wand, make up money, spend it on made up stuff, and pretend that Americans can pay it off.  Heck, why not just write a fictional check from us to the government and declare the budget has been balanced, and the deficit is paid off?   </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just crazy enough, it might work!</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My complaint isn&#039;t that poor people can&#039;t afford the new cars, although some way to add an additional subsidy would have been great, but that the requirements on the MPG increases should have been even more stringent.  It would have been really great though if there had been an interlocking subsidy to benefit some other people who might not have been able to make use of the program.  If you look at it however, ultimately that $4,500 has a significant utility increase the less money you make.  

The reason it doesn&#039;t include used cars is of course because that wouldn&#039;t be as &quot;stimulative.&quot;  From a perspective of getting inefficient cars off the road, the capacity to buy a used car with the money would have been a better idea.  From the perspective of trying to achieve that while &quot;stimulating&quot; the economy, having people buy new cars makes more sense.  I don&#039;t necessarily think that it should have been implemented that way, but the reasoning is pretty clear.
.-= Brad&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://personalfinanceandinvesting.com/archives/some-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cdollar-cost-averaging%E2%80%9D/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Some Thoughts on “Dollar Cost Averaging”&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My complaint isn&#8217;t that poor people can&#8217;t afford the new cars, although some way to add an additional subsidy would have been great, but that the requirements on the MPG increases should have been even more stringent.  It would have been really great though if there had been an interlocking subsidy to benefit some other people who might not have been able to make use of the program.  If you look at it however, ultimately that $4,500 has a significant utility increase the less money you make.  </p>
<p>The reason it doesn&#8217;t include used cars is of course because that wouldn&#8217;t be as &#8220;stimulative.&#8221;  From a perspective of getting inefficient cars off the road, the capacity to buy a used car with the money would have been a better idea.  From the perspective of trying to achieve that while &#8220;stimulating&#8221; the economy, having people buy new cars makes more sense.  I don&#8217;t necessarily think that it should have been implemented that way, but the reasoning is pretty clear.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Brad&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://personalfinanceandinvesting.com/archives/some-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cdollar-cost-averaging%E2%80%9D/" rel="nofollow">Some Thoughts on “Dollar Cost Averaging”</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.myliferoi.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: MyLifeROI</title>
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		<dc:creator>MyLifeROI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 03:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Steve Szalinski, 

An increase in consumer confidence! That&#039;s pretty valuable.

And when the car industry was expecting to do 10 million cars this year, a 250,000 car boost in one week is pretty huge!

MLR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steve Szalinski, </p>
<p>An increase in consumer confidence! That&#8217;s pretty valuable.</p>
<p>And when the car industry was expecting to do 10 million cars this year, a 250,000 car boost in one week is pretty huge!</p>
<p>MLR</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Szalinski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Szalinski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 12:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone calculated the ROI work up (Return on investment) that the government gets on this?
Realizing that there are many &quot;soft&quot; variables.......................................................
They spent 1 Billion..what did they actually &quot;make&quot; on this deal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone calculated the ROI work up (Return on investment) that the government gets on this?<br />
Realizing that there are many &#8220;soft&#8221; variables&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
They spent 1 Billion..what did they actually &#8220;make&#8221; on this deal?</p>
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		<title>By: Saturday Staples: Cash for Clunkers : Yielding Wealth - Personal Finance Tips - Money Management Advice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saturday Staples: Cash for Clunkers : Yielding Wealth - Personal Finance Tips - Money Management Advice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Car Dealer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Car Dealer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of people are angry with the fact the Cash for Clunkers program does not apply to used cars but the program can&#039;t satisfy everyone. If you can&#039;t afford a new car then this program is not for you. There is only a one billion dollar fund so act fast if you are going to pursue this program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of people are angry with the fact the Cash for Clunkers program does not apply to used cars but the program can&#8217;t satisfy everyone. If you can&#8217;t afford a new car then this program is not for you. There is only a one billion dollar fund so act fast if you are going to pursue this program.</p>
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		<title>By: MyLifeROI</title>
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		<dc:creator>MyLifeROI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jeff, 

One assumption I was making was that the car you are currently using is in pretty rough condition. (See: &quot;It is also in pretty rough condition (give it another year and it will look like the SUV in the picture above!)&quot;)

If your used car is in perfect condition, the tables are turned substantially and the analysis needs to be reworked.

Good thought, though! Glad to see my readers are critical of what they read! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeff, </p>
<p>One assumption I was making was that the car you are currently using is in pretty rough condition. (See: &#8220;It is also in pretty rough condition (give it another year and it will look like the SUV in the picture above!)&#8221;)</p>
<p>If your used car is in perfect condition, the tables are turned substantially and the analysis needs to be reworked.</p>
<p>Good thought, though! Glad to see my readers are critical of what they read! :)</p>
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